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Bill Meltzer
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Feb 2 @ 12:28 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Del Zotto, Flyers Greatest Number 12
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Feb 2 @ 12:30 PM ET
What was the off ice distraction for Del Zotto Bill is referring to?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:33 PM ET
What was the off ice distraction for Del Zotto Bill is referring to?
- benjichronic


AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:36 PM ET
On Del Zotto: Pay that man his money

*At a reasonable price and term, of course. Two years, $2.75M per
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:38 PM ET
On Del Zotto: Pay that man his money

*At a reasonable price and term, of course. Two years, $2.75M per

- AllInForFlyers


Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Feb 2 @ 12:40 PM ET
What was the off ice distraction for Del Zotto Bill is referring to?
- benjichronic



His rejection from Pornstars......
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 2 @ 12:44 PM ET
On Del Zotto: Pay that man his money

*At a reasonable price and term, of course. Two years, $2.75M per

- AllInForFlyers


I'm ok with that. Regardless of how he finishes out I'd rather they just qualify him and get another free year of evaluation on him and our prospects. Would he be a UFA going into the summer of 2016? If so he would be an excellent trade chip.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Feb 2 @ 12:47 PM ET
If thats Tyler Seguin, I would think it might be difficult after being traded with that ink referring to the Bruins Cup on his body in a new locker room.

Its daylight the girl appears to be of legal age, I dont see any harm or foul there.

And if being in a photo like Richards and Carter were is a precursor to a cup here, I am all for it.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 2 @ 12:47 PM ET
His rejection from Pornstars......
- Ur Not Me


I don't know why, lately, the guy is clearly showing he knows how to finish
wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Feb 2 @ 12:47 PM ET
The #12 questions is not fair. I think of all three of them.

Like #2, I really think it is a number that could be retired under all three of the names it would not be a slight. All three were foundation players for their generation with the Flyers.

As for Del Zotto...I don't know the off ice issues...but I do know that if he is going to play even close to the way he did the last three weeks he would be a top 3 on this team next year and maybe the year after. That would allow for him to have the odd hot and cold streaks. I would keep him...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 2 @ 12:52 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Del Zotto, Flyers Greatest Number 12
- bmeltzer


I agree that Del Zotto's play had dipped, but sitting him for 9 games was a bad choice. Nobody on this defense has played well enough to justify keeping MDZ out that long.

I also think, for the most part, Del Zotto's play has been good.

Best number 12 is Kerr. 4 time 50 goal guy, single season record for PPGs, a mountain of a man that was a bedrock player for some great Flyer teams.

Also, he should be in the HHOF, IMO
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
The #12 questions is not fair. I think of all three of them.

Like #2, I really think it is a number that could be retired under all three of the names it would not be a slight. All three were foundation players for their generation with the Flyers.

As for Del Zotto...I don't know the off ice issues...but I do know that if he is going to play even close to the way he did the last three weeks he would be a top 3 on this team next year and maybe the year after. That would allow for him to have the odd hot and cold streaks. I would keep him...

- wbon22


The off ice stuff was a aging porn star calling him out on Twitter for asking her to hook him up with other women.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 2 @ 12:54 PM ET
On Del Zotto: Pay that man his money

*At a reasonable price and term, of course. Two years, $2.75M per

- AllInForFlyers



If Del Zotto is going to continue to play at this level, that is still a bargain contract. Flyers could decide to play hardball and just make a Q offer, but that might creat ill will for future seasons.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 2 @ 12:56 PM ET
On Del Zotto: Pay that man his money

*At a reasonable price and term, of course. Two years, $2.75M per

- AllInForFlyers


Sather really Richarded him around in the last negotation, and Poile just dumped him after they torpedoed his value... not sure he and his agent would be up for doing teams any favors this go around.
rferrone
New York Rangers
Joined: 01.29.2014

Feb 2 @ 12:58 PM ET
The off ice stuff was a aging porn star calling him out on Twitter for asking her to hook him up with other women.
- Jsaquella



Four pornstars have said hes straight up stalked them
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
Four pornstars have said hes straight up stalked them
- rferrone



You gotta go pretty far over the line to have a porn star accuse you of stalking. Let alone 4.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
Bob's usually not one to create smoke where there's no fire.

Bob McKenzie on TSN 690: "I do believe that Mike Green is going to be traded by the deadline."
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 2 @ 1:06 PM ET
Four pornstars have said hes straight up stalked them
- rferrone


Have they filed charges? Stalking is a pretty serious crime, and if he's actually doing that, I imagine there'd be charges filed or pending. What I've read is, that a few porn actresses found him to be a pain in the ass and a pest, but no charges have been filed.

As long as he plays well on the ice, and he's not doing stuff off the ice that impacts that, then I'm not overly concerned.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 2 @ 1:08 PM ET
Sather really Richarded him around in the last negotation, and Poile just dumped him after they torpedoed his value... not sure he and his agent would be up for doing teams any favors this go around.
- Tomahawk


I understand that -- because it's true -- but at the same time, the Flyers could just qualify him and he gets nothing close to the $2.75 next season

I think he's done well in his time in Philly, and I want him to stay. But the Flyers need to start dropping the hammer on these contracts, too -- don't have to be as nasty as Slats, but at the same time, MDZ's got zero leverage for next season
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 2 @ 1:08 PM ET
Sather really Richarded him around in the last negotation, and Poile just dumped him after they torpedoed his value... not sure he and his agent would be up for doing teams any favors this go around.
- Tomahawk



Del Zotto's culpability in how recent past seasons have played out should not be ignored. Right now, Del Zotto and his agent have little leverage. They're not really in a position to turn down a deal. If he wouldn't be interested in that 2 year deal, then he's stuck in another one year deal situation, where he really can't command a big raise.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 2 @ 1:10 PM ET
Four pornstars have said hes straight up stalked them
- rferrone



Okay, so the guy likes porn stars. Honestly, I don't care.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 2 @ 1:11 PM ET
Sather really Richarded him around in the last negotation, and Poile just dumped him after they torpedoed his value... not sure he and his agent would be up for doing teams any favors this go around.
- Tomahawk


If he's playing hardball, he's very tradeable and could bring in some good assets.
wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Feb 2 @ 1:12 PM ET
The off ice stuff was a aging porn star calling him out on Twitter for asking her to hook him up with other women.
- Jsaquella



....two things.
1. eek...that is

2. how do people find/track these things? I can't even get reasonable updates on things that I am actively following....unreal
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 2 @ 1:13 PM ET
Great article, Bill.

1) MDZ will be an RFA again and not an UFA. So, Hexy should tender him a qualifying offer.

2) Because I was raised on Dorny's era of the Flyers, I associate 12 with him (and voted accordingly). However, it's a tough choice because all 3 players poured their hearts into that #12 sweater.

3) "Jay's upcoming 50th Anniversary of the Flyers history set (a reissue of the original Full Spectrum, covering 1967 to 1995-96, and a second volume covering the years since then)"

Awesome news!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 2 @ 1:14 PM ET
Del Zotto's culpability in how recent past seasons have played out should not be ignored. Right now, Del Zotto and his agent have little leverage. They're not really in a position to turn down a deal. If he wouldn't be interested in that 2 year deal, then he's stuck in another one year deal situation, where he really can't command a big raise.
- MJL


Agreed -- he's on a $1.3 million one-year now; doubling your salary for next season is gracious in a cap league when there have been questions about your fit in a few places

I see a player who has become better than I've ever seen him. But at the same time, you gotta do it more than once, especially when you're on a one-year deal where you had to the job done, because you were THISCLOSE to being out of the league at the start of the season
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